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2008 vs 2012 II by pcmaniac88 2008 vs 2012 II by pcmaniac88
In color this time. (turned her back into loli)

Can't say i'm satisfied with my progress... but I guess i just have to work harder. Orz

I got the patterns here --> [link]
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:iconishyo:
Ishyo Featured By Owner May 14, 2015  Student Interface Designer
woah amazing improovement!!
first it was great but now it's awesome!
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:iconlucy-mashiro:
Lucy-Mashiro Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2014  Student General Artist
You were also incredible awesome, but ok, good improement though xD
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:iconquique0990:
quique0990 Featured By Owner Sep 9, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's very incredible the improvement!! :D GREAT WORK.
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:iconmeloncandies:
MelonCandies Featured By Owner Dec 17, 2013
wow youve always been good : O

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:iconyangspirit:
Yangspirit Featured By Owner Nov 19, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They pretty much look the same with little tweeks not really much change this the last 4 years you should try different techniques nobody like a one trip pony.
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:iconalex-hetalia-fan:
alex-hetalia-fan Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
wow it look so much better then it did before but the before was really good!!!!!!:iconkawaiidesuplz:
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:iconanimelover4you:
ANIMELOVER4YOU Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2013
you have improved alot
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:iconginryuzaki:
Ginryuzaki Featured By Owner Jan 27, 2013
both are awesome!!!! but you did improve a lot~! :iconiloveyouplz:
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:iconzjoriz:
zJoriz Featured By Owner Dec 24, 2012
Good work! :worship:
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:iconpunkion:
punkion Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
wow, so much improvements!
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:iconninety1hundred:
ninety1hundred Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2012
in terms of skill, 2012 is better.. but 2008 had more personality ^^ i like the spunk~

good job~
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:iconviolet-wynd:
Violet-Wynd Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2012
I really like this.
I would say you can definately see you have improved, your lines and colouring work is much better, but I think I like the colours/tones used in the first drawing. :)
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:icondilnoza5a:
dilnoza5a Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I like them both but the 1st more)
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:iconkadamidee:
KadamiDee Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
It seems like my OC ++"
But it's very wonderful!
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:iconvacuedad:
vacuedad Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2012
its almost a change in style, but both are 'tottemo kawaii'.
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:iconwackydude1234:
wackydude1234 Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2012
I actually really love the smooth colours in the original, not to say the new one is worse but I love them both.
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:iconmoonlight1999:
Moonlight1999 Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2012
good job
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:iconnazeko:
Nazeko Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012  Student Digital Artist
They're both good! :iconasdfghplz:
Though in the new one, the shading had more depth.
Very nice work! I love your arts~
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:iconkeikei11:
keikei11 Featured By Owner Jun 16, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Where did you get the blank meme? XD
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:iconvicse:
vicse Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
...they are both great i like the new one better just cuz its more your own style if that makes sense...only issue I have with the new one is the stick....you gave the impression that she is holding it completely as in from pinky out all fingers are touching it so at that angle it doesnt seem that it would go into the apple where u drew the entry....unless the stick curves or is snapped or maybe it just enters the apple at a 45 off center who knows but its not really a big deal thats just what is bugging me xD. either way damn they are good!
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:iconmc126:
Mc126 Featured By Owner Jun 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
both are better than what i can do lol
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:iconk-vo:
K-VO Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist
both are amazing but you've improved a lot! ^^
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:iconchii-gu:
chii-gu Featured By Owner May 22, 2012
i like both but i like the number 1 most :heart:
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:iconazure-lugia5:
Azure-Lugia5 Featured By Owner May 14, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love them both!
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Gremlios Featured By Owner May 5, 2012
I'm not sure how I came across this pick, but I have to say, your 2012 doesn't have the strength of your 2008. You have gained a great deal of skill, the folding of the kimono ,the shape of the body, the shading... all have vastly improved.

You are a better artist, but in recreating your work you made something that feels... weaker.
(I imagine you want a honest critique, so please don't take offense)

Now here is where i feel you went wrong (In my probably flawed opinion):

The Pose: With the more compact pose you have raised the tension of the character, which would suffer when placed upon the soft background of the original. In the remake she is in action, In the original she's more relaxed.

The Hair Extension: Flawed in the original yes, but you lowered it to much in the new version, causing it to flow in with the rest of the hair a little too much.

the Kimono: The folds are better, but the overlapping on the edges feels to pronounced, also it feels a little tighter in the new version.

I love these pieces, when a artist shows the progress they have gained, you have learned a lot about creating a 3-dimensional figure, more powerful shading, and the human figure. But skill doesn't always amount to success.

Your work is stunning by the way, I just was so attracted to the charm of your original I had to comment on why (the more skillfully drawn) redo didn't have the charm of the original..
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pcmaniac88 Featured By Owner May 5, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Hey thanks for the honest opinion.I really appriciatte it :)
True ,skill doesnt amount to success. It's something i learned along the years Orz

As much as it'll dissapoint many people i have no intention of going back to my old style since it lacks originality. Thanks a lot for your feedback though.
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Gremlios Featured By Owner May 5, 2012
I like your new style, it's not really a critique of style, more about the specific charm of the original. I almost feel it's because of the lack of a dynamic pose / angle (Which your newer stuff seems to favor).

Sometimes simpler is better. (Of course you need to gain the skills to dynamic poses and angles, they also rule, but sometimes you want something to feel... softer)

Wait a sec, just found your uncolored version... now that one is so dynamic it works... oh well now I don't know what to think.
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:iconnekomikoreimu:
NekoMikoReimu Featured By Owner May 1, 2012
It's nice that you stopped copying ito noizi style and got your own style, nice improvement
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:iconeritay:
Eritay Featured By Owner May 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i think the before drawing is better :D
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:icontwilightdrifter:
Twilightdrifter Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012
Still that's very good! Heck I wish I could draw like that. ^^; Don't critique yourself too much. ^^
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:iconchenali:
chenali Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I clearly think that both are awesome. I love how your first one looks and I do also adore your second one. Im a bit conflicted between them.
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:iconjacksbasement:
JacksBasement Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Your hands got better. :)
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:iconlost-angel-ms:
lost-angel-ms Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012
Honestly, I like the 2008 better. But, I do see the improvement in concept of design/positioning in the second one!
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:iconzetsubou-ninja:
Zetsubou-Ninja Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I loved the innocence in the 2008 one that seems a little too seductive in the 2012. Its amazing what simple adjustment in gesture can do! (But I guess because she also had a softer face in 2008) but it is a clear improvement and i Love the rich colors in 2012 evene though the paler colors of 2008 matched the atmosphere.
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WBTBWB2005 Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012
i love
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xXxMiZuMiXmIkOxXx Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
much improvement.
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TranquilDisturbance Featured By Owner Apr 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Very much progress ^^

The colouring is much better, in my opinion; especially the skin. The anatomy is loads better. The pose seems very much more realistic, as well as the perspective.
... I love your progress on the kimono.
The only thing is the colour of the newest one's hair... I think it'd look nice with a lighter colour... hm.
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Skia713 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
There are good things in both, but overall, I would have to say that I suggest you go back and try again. The skin tones are much better on 2012, unless you go for tanned skin--something that Japanese do not value because tanned skin indicates island girls and the pale, almost porcelain skin indicates a pure Japanese heritage. I like the colors on the new kimono better, but I like the draping on it better in 2008. I would have to say that I definitely prefer the 2008 face shape, expression, eyes, etc., over the 2012 face. The hair in the 2012 drawing looks like it is dirty and lank and just overall not something I would want to get my hands into. I'm not sure I like the 2008 hair much better, but it definitely looks cleaner and like it would be much more pleasant to touch. As for the hair color, I think I would prefer something in between the two colors you used. The 2012 color is so drab, dark and dull that it is sadly lacking, but the 2008 color is kind of washed out looking. Which hair ornament you use is irrelevant to me. Again, the position of the candied apple or whatever it is, but the one in 2008 looks more edible. Not having any kind of background is great if you are making it for stock, but if you are making it for a picture, then it seems unfinished.
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:iconmewpudding101:
mewpudding101 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2012
Wow, that's a great change! Awesome job!
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:iconlacabezadelcastor:
LaCabezaDelCastor Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2012  Hobbyist Artist
The first one is sweet! The second one is more flirtatious...
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:iconrainbowblur:
RainbowBlur Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I like the first one's eyes better ^w^
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:iconpixpir:
PixPir Featured By Owner Apr 28, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I like both
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:iconfichstick100:
fichstick100 Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2012
2008 is beter :S
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:iconbeeza-ari:
Beeza-Ari Featured By Owner Apr 18, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
2008 is awsome too!
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:iconvishni:
Vishni Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
Wow, great improvement there! :D
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:iconkyonko-chann:
Kyonko-chann Featured By Owner Apr 15, 2012
very nice improvements
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:iconcakesalie:
Cakesalie Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2012  Student General Artist
How nice. Lots of improvement. Awesome work
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:iconanoneko:
AnoNeko Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd be happy just to be as good as you were at 2008, you rock!!!! XD

How do you get your colouring to look so smooth?
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:iconmoonlight1999:
Moonlight1999 Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2012
i just noticed the coloured and the plain one is kinda different
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SaeedXpress Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Student
So Cute :D
Nice Work :D
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